tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post1254090732891497475..comments2024-03-25T10:44:07.766-04:00Comments on LES FEMMES - THE TRUTH: Can the Pope Change Church Doctrine on Capital Punishment? Short Answer: NO!Mary Ann Kreitzerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-17593637972439185292018-08-11T11:56:34.636-04:002018-08-11T11:56:34.636-04:00Mary Ann - does this give you pause in your thinki...Mary Ann - does this give you pause in your thinking at all?<br /><br />https://www.catholic.com/audio/cot/24Sojournerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894530274721309926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-74353268973508549652018-08-11T11:07:50.024-04:002018-08-11T11:07:50.024-04:00Via Facebook:
#DrainTheLavenderSwamp Raze the US...Via Facebook:<br /><br /><br />#DrainTheLavenderSwamp Raze the USCCB to the ground and salt the soil upon which it stood, and never replicate it Remove Wuerhl Dolan O’Malley Mahoney Farrell DiNardo Tobin and Cupich- laicize the whole lot of them immediately and banish them and their followers to far off monasteries for the rest of their miserable pederast and sodomite loving lives, under vows of Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-5992527913655083232018-08-10T23:10:52.914-04:002018-08-10T23:10:52.914-04:00Thank you, Father. If you are the Fr. Dave Nix who...Thank you, Father. If you are the Fr. Dave Nix who writes at Padre Peregrino, I just visited your blog and read your article on the death penalty. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It helped clarify my own thinking. May God abundantly bless your ministry! I just signed up for your posts and will look forward to reading them. <br /><br />I read your article on attending the same-sex wedding. I Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-86777914984782613382018-08-10T17:04:40.734-04:002018-08-10T17:04:40.734-04:00You're asking the question needs to be asked b... You're asking the question needs to be asked by everybody.Fr.davenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089831569561421804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-8961276789963448482018-08-09T14:35:04.098-04:002018-08-09T14:35:04.098-04:00The purpose of punishment is justice -- not rehabi...The purpose of punishment is justice -- not rehabilitation, not vengeance. Some crime demand the death penalty and it is unjust to not exact it in those cases where it is the just penalty. I lost a friend to an escaped murderer who was already in jail for multiple murders. He had traveled to the West Coast providing contract support for Lockheed Aircraft. While he was there the murderer Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05788496280134934502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-76027831414796879192018-08-09T13:47:42.377-04:002018-08-09T13:47:42.377-04:00Sojourner,
I'm surprised by this comment:
&...Sojourner, <br /><br />I'm surprised by this comment:<br /><br />"We killed violent criminals in the past because we considered them a danger to society, and capital punishment was needed to protect the innocent. That is no longer true."<br /><br />How can you say this? Did you watch the video? My brother had a friend killed by a murderer who was set free and killed again. Raymond Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-73965020955748457122018-08-09T11:28:57.006-04:002018-08-09T11:28:57.006-04:00I hate to say it, but I figured it out. The Church...I hate to say it, but I figured it out. The Church WILL change. The evil men in charge figure they are enlightened. Or perhaps they are merely perverts who want the Church to accept the immoral as moral.<br /><br />Either way it's going to change. We see the how with Francis' way of ignoring the dubia.<br /><br />They will just ignore and marginalize and criticize Catholics such as us Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01504517769804159508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-384057691941594022018-08-09T11:17:13.752-04:002018-08-09T11:17:13.752-04:00I also respect Msgr. Pope. He was very kind to me ...I also respect Msgr. Pope. He was very kind to me and my family at a very difficult time for us. However, for as long as Cardinal Wuerl is in power the Msgr. is going to be very careful with what he says and will always be a good company man. Dymphnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469622835449220113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-92137541914600252862018-08-09T10:29:08.751-04:002018-08-09T10:29:08.751-04:00God specifically commands Capital Punishment. Gen...God specifically commands Capital Punishment. Genesis 9:6,"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man his blood shall be shed". That is God speaking directly, and clearly on this topic. Capital Punishment is God's will.<br /><br />This is also supported by the narrative of the entire Biblical story where God intervenes with Man through his chosen People to defend his holiness and Aquahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06691722006352014613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-31974840658101595872018-08-09T07:08:14.050-04:002018-08-09T07:08:14.050-04:00Thank you very much for your thorough and thoughtf...Thank you very much for your thorough and thoughtful response to my questions. I am afraid I don’t see how killing someone brings them closer to repentance and salvation. If death caused conversion, then it would seem we should kill everyone who commits any kind of mortal sin. Instead we give them a chance to repent. Self defense would seem to be the only justification for killing another Sojournerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894530274721309926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-2805826948172056362018-08-09T06:02:23.009-04:002018-08-09T06:02:23.009-04:00I appreciate your comments, Sojourner, and will tr...I appreciate your comments, Sojourner, and will try to answer your questions. Do I think canon lawyers can be wrong? Of course, but so can moral theologians. Pope John Paul II NEVER said that the death penalty is "inadmissible." The implication from the new wording is that the death penalty is sinful. I don't know how anyone can read what it being rewritten and come to any other Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-21990360917021832922018-08-08T23:17:48.224-04:002018-08-08T23:17:48.224-04:00I have one more question, You seem to be question...I have one more question, You seem to be questioning the legitimacy of Pope Francis. If you do not believe we have a valid Pope, are you a sedevacantist? From the blog, Canon Law Made Easy, it says:<br /><br />“To sum up: Sarah is on the right track about sedevacantism, but it’s more accurate to say that it is a schismatic movement rather than a heretical one. As sedevacantist Catholics refuseSojournerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894530274721309926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-11805093354683714602018-08-08T22:43:20.999-04:002018-08-08T22:43:20.999-04:00Mary Ann, do you believe it is possible for canon ...Mary Ann, do you believe it is possible for canon lawyers to be wrong? From what I understand of the change, Pope Francis is not saying that the death penalty is morally wrong. He is saying that for the times we live in, it is inadmissible. Inadmissible is not the same as saying it is morally wrong. The Church would never say contraception is inadmissible, but that it is morally evil. The Sojournerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894530274721309926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-70273818657144282312018-08-08T21:21:04.683-04:002018-08-08T21:21:04.683-04:00Truth is never confusing. Pope Francis is always c...Truth is never confusing. Pope Francis is always confusing. Therefore, Pope Francis does not speak Truth.Susan Matthiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507964871759902557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-8189375662878575552018-08-08T20:35:08.303-04:002018-08-08T20:35:08.303-04:00Sojourner,
I respect Msgr. Pope, but he is NOT a...Sojourner, <br /><br />I respect Msgr. Pope, but he is NOT a canon lawyer. Here's his bio: http://msgrpope.com/about-us/<br /><br />Fr. Gerard Murphy is a canon lawyer. So is Ed Peters who has written on the legitimacy of the death penalty a number of times and refuted the sentimental arguments of those who say it is always immoral. Even John Paul II didn't say that. https://Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-35550975244824858152018-08-08T18:34:27.273-04:002018-08-08T18:34:27.273-04:00I became convinced of the Catholic Faith over the ...I became convinced of the Catholic Faith over the Protestant, lifelong faith of my family for primarily one reason only: The perennial, unchanging teaching of the Church .... and the Pope as its guarantee.<br /><br />Cool relevant ideas are cheap. I am easily able to follow this that or other Protestant Pastor with cool, relevant ideas. Shoot, I have plenty of those myself. But I gave up Aquahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06691722006352014613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-18039094943710243182018-08-08T15:46:54.559-04:002018-08-08T15:46:54.559-04:00I've long suspected that Ann Barnhardt's t...I've long suspected that Ann Barnhardt's theory that PBXVI resigned in substantial error is correct. Either way, substantial error or invalid conclave, Bergoglio has never been pope.Debbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06128673790036459245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-31149325033705426942018-08-08T12:52:31.138-04:002018-08-08T12:52:31.138-04:00I agree with Chriss, Mary Ann........this was real...I agree with Chriss, Mary Ann........this was really ingenious in the way and the timing of this 'change in Doctrine' (that cannot change). This was a 2 pronged grenade that he threw at us: 1. The timing of pulling out this little ditty was to change the conversation from the clerical sex abuse scandal that is rocking the Catholic world. (as if we can't walk and chew gum at the sameTLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185788425122984772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-85046689467283957652018-08-08T12:38:34.591-04:002018-08-08T12:38:34.591-04:00According to Msgr, Charles Pope, doctrine was not ...According to Msgr, Charles Pope, doctrine was not changed and you who are making these accusations do not understand what was readily done. <br /><br />“I have concerns that the reactions I have seen in the Catholic “blogosphere” have been too extreme. There are accusations of error, heresy, violations of Natural Law, and unauthorized changes to an unchangeable doctrine. There are calls to resistSojournerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894530274721309926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-29258676852158098842018-08-08T10:30:02.049-04:002018-08-08T10:30:02.049-04:00Development of doctrine is only permissible in the...Development of doctrine is only permissible in the direction of deeper understanding of the previously existing doctrine, not the overturning of such doctrine in conformance with the Zeitgeist!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05788496280134934502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-52309831161523254942018-08-08T08:02:15.683-04:002018-08-08T08:02:15.683-04:00There can never be "an evolution of" doc...There can never be "an evolution of" doctrine because truth simply "is". It does not change. <br /><br />Francis I am sure did this thinking Catholics would be dumb enough to agree. The purpose, however has nothing to do with criminals. It is to create the precedent for further "evolution" of dogma. <br /><br />God, help us. Chriss Raineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10832684312383981553noreply@blogger.com