tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post1612538347454483444..comments2024-03-25T10:44:07.766-04:00Comments on LES FEMMES - THE TRUTH: Virginia Bishops' Lobby Group Doesn't Represent My Friend (Or Me!)Mary Ann Kreitzerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-30303063736982867312013-04-16T11:04:31.468-04:002013-04-16T11:04:31.468-04:00"I have often argued against the absolute imm..."I have often argued against the absolute immorality of dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki."<br /><br />I am a bit confused - that seems a bit contradictory to your concern with unjust war and killing willy-nilly. Did you argue against the bombs' immorality, or did you mean to say you argued that it was immoral?c mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-8471024153929317712013-04-16T10:58:40.267-04:002013-04-16T10:58:40.267-04:00"I did not state that Blessed John Paul defin..."I did not state that Blessed John Paul definitively condemned the death penalty—I said he defined circumstances when it is and when it is not legitimate."<br /><br />Well, he actually did two things: (1) he defined circumstances surrounding its legitimate use [when there is no alternative way to effectively protect society], and (2) he gave a personal assessment of the current state ofc mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-56525959157288826892013-04-14T19:06:07.174-04:002013-04-14T19:06:07.174-04:00You are dead-on right about this Mary Ann. This i...You are dead-on right about this Mary Ann. This is the letter I sent in response to yet-again-another e-mail blast from the Virginia Catholic Conference on yet-again- another socio-leftist political cause calling on us for action. I gave him a call to action alright....<br /><br />"ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Why OH WHY are the US Catholic Bishops still so inexplicably obsessed with a pushing asusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742800352247658277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-57071866024624900812013-04-14T12:25:17.504-04:002013-04-14T12:25:17.504-04:00Actually the pope did not "define circumstanc...Actually the pope did not "define circumstances," he made a vague, non-specific pronouncement about not using it when other sufficient means are available to protect society. That is a judgment call and depends on the heinousness of the crime, the ability of the inmate to impact what happens outside the prison, etc. <br /><br />As for Virginia, here is the list of crimes that can, but Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-23386698170643830032013-04-14T00:06:55.675-04:002013-04-14T00:06:55.675-04:00I did not state that Blessed John Paul definitivel...I did not state that Blessed John Paul definitively condemned the death penalty—I said he defined circumstances when it is and when it is not legitimate. He did maintain some very limited circumstances in which the State has the moral right (and perhaps duty, though that is going slightly further than the text of the encyclical) to employ it. However, Catholics must give their assent of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-89570110207426090352013-04-13T08:36:55.825-04:002013-04-13T08:36:55.825-04:00The pope did NOT definitively condemn the death pe...The pope did NOT definitively condemn the death penalty. In Evangelium Vitae he wrote, "the nature and extent of the punishment ...ought not to go to the extreme of executing the offender except in cases of absolute necessity: in other words, when it would not be possible otherwise to defend society." He goes on to say "such cases are very rare, if not practically non-existent.&Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-64778018755207628632013-04-13T07:52:20.405-04:002013-04-13T07:52:20.405-04:00Unfortunately, when the Holy Father puts something...Unfortunately, when the Holy Father puts something into an encyclical letter—his teaching on the moral legitimacy of the death penalty and when it’s use is (and is not) consistent with Catholic moral principles, it does become part of the magisterium and to reject such teaching is dissent from the teaching authority of the Holy See. The fact that it supersedes earlier teaching—Thomas Aquinas or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com