tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post5084944652317639178..comments2024-03-25T10:44:07.766-04:00Comments on LES FEMMES - THE TRUTH: Guest Post: Pope Francis - The Our Father "Induces Temptation"Mary Ann Kreitzerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-42484673958652275772017-12-28T20:13:13.074-05:002017-12-28T20:13:13.074-05:00One thing St Jerome supposedly said regarding tran...One thing St Jerome supposedly said regarding translating from the original tests is something like "If it is translated word-for-word it makes no sense".<br /><br />One thing I have always wondered (& hope to be able to ask the original author's one day) is 'If this all occurred within the Roman Empire, why were the Gospels originally written in Greek & not Latin?'Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07374065617705814530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-54740879058404125322017-12-27T14:49:00.270-05:002017-12-27T14:49:00.270-05:00It sounded to me like the Pope's homily at the...It sounded to me like the Pope's homily at the Vatican midnight Mass was written by the New World Order crowd. I believe Francis should consider tearing down the Vatican walls! The homily delivered at the midnight Mass at the Basilica in DC by the Pope's apostolic delegate to the U.S. (Archbishop Pierre) was almost identical. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10436790141290595669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-84058454138303371012017-12-27T10:44:39.080-05:002017-12-27T10:44:39.080-05:00But, as Anthony Esolen says, the Greek is canonica...But, as Anthony Esolen says, the Greek is canonical.Susan Matthiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507964871759902557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-4109542240372009142017-12-27T10:39:22.698-05:002017-12-27T10:39:22.698-05:00Also the word "bring" is translated in b...Also the word "bring" is translated in both Matthew and Luke as "do not bring us to the time".<br />Therefore in Greek "do not lead us into temptation" can mean "do not bring us into the time of (pressure, test, trial). <br /><br />One would have to look at the Aramaic to Greek translation, then the Greek to Latin translation since what is above is the Greek to Susan Matthiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507964871759902557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-66776856174836485272017-12-27T10:28:13.777-05:002017-12-27T10:28:13.777-05:00St Jerome translated from Greek into Latin. Previo...St Jerome translated from Greek into Latin. Previously the Aramaic had been translated into Greek. So it goes: Aramaic, Greek, Latin, English.<br /><br />According to the Greek, in a word for word translation, the Our Father goes like this:<br /><br />Matthew: 6:9-13 - "Thusly then pray you; Father of us the one in the heavens, let be holy the name of You; let come the kingdom of You; let Susan Matthiesenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03507964871759902557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-50670601388082585722017-12-27T10:06:41.624-05:002017-12-27T10:06:41.624-05:00If you ask me, this is a flimsy excuse for a big f...If you ask me, this is a flimsy excuse for a big fat foot in the door to begin "recreating" everything the church teaches to suit the whims of the new world order. If he can get away with this, actually altering the words of Our Lord, then what can stop him from changing any and everything else? Adopting the concept that we have been deluded by translation errors for centuries and thatChriss Raineyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10832684312383981553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-52874571413784765262017-12-27T07:50:30.840-05:002017-12-27T07:50:30.840-05:00Mary Ann....this is a very good historical synopsi...Mary Ann....this is a very good historical synopsis.....as usual, Esolen is outstanding.<br />I'll stick with the unparalleled language scholar St. Jerome over the crude, marxist-agenda-driven bergoglio anyday.<br /> <br />https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2017/12/why-we-shouldnt-change-the-lords-prayersusanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742800352247658277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-64500841698742354982017-12-27T07:03:55.062-05:002017-12-27T07:03:55.062-05:00The inspired Scripture was not written in Latin. W...The inspired Scripture was not written in Latin. What language (Greek? Aramaic?) was St. Jerome translating from and what was the literal translation of the original scripture?Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.com