tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post7225889686318125034..comments2024-03-28T22:26:19.263-04:00Comments on LES FEMMES - THE TRUTH: Sister Lucia Didn't Think Much of the Bishops....Mary Ann Kreitzerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-80105285564100799942015-12-13T18:12:19.390-05:002015-12-13T18:12:19.390-05:00Yes, Fr Gruner was "eccentric". He was *...Yes, Fr Gruner was "eccentric". He was *not* in the centre of the "broad way that leads to destruction". He realized the extreme urgency of the Fatima Message, where the annihilation of nations and the salvation of many, many souls is at stake. But we don't want to be extreme, do we? Hell only lasts forever.Fr PJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597780307057121375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-42544393424973328652015-12-07T01:10:16.571-05:002015-12-07T01:10:16.571-05:00John, I recall the Vatican stating that P JP2 call...John, I recall the Vatican stating that P JP2 called to read the Third Secret brought to him in the hospital while recovering from his wounds. I guess because it surprised me so much as to think, If I became Pope that would be one of the first things I would want to get my hands on to read! Especially if one is truly devoted to Our Holy Mother!<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-66625233377531194042015-12-07T01:03:58.759-05:002015-12-07T01:03:58.759-05:00Thank you Mary Ann,confirms what I remember and al...Thank you Mary Ann,confirms what I remember and also gives credence to what Escreva's secretary alleges his own attitude was on Lucia. Escriva of Opus Dei described her as "Silly" but ,"...a good person". IMHO a good amount of the Hierarchy and other clerics in the Church seem to view all the apparitions approved or not as peripheral to their role, unless the same Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-55111330248857330302015-12-06T23:21:20.422-05:002015-12-06T23:21:20.422-05:00Pope JPll consecrated the "world" (twice...Pope JPll consecrated the "world" (twice)and not Russia to the Immaculate Heart without being in concert with all of the Bishops. This is NOT what our Lady asked - the consecration was not done. If it was THIS would be the current reign of the Immaculate heart of Mary! ( Yikes- looks more like the reign of Bealzebub) Even JPll knew he did not consecrated as the Virgin asked, because he suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11611848114135622126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-6562426398563645152015-12-06T22:59:27.309-05:002015-12-06T22:59:27.309-05:00John, What I said was almost a direct quote from F...John, What I said was almost a direct quote from Fellows, but he said the pope showed "little interest" until after the assassination attempt. I was not disparaging the pope's obvious devotion to Our Lady as evidenced in his apostolic motto "totus tuus."<br /><br />Anon. 9:20 p.m. Fellows quotes Canon Barthos who says that Sister Lucia refused to go to that event until sheMary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-22039956640748201232015-12-06T22:25:37.661-05:002015-12-06T22:25:37.661-05:00"Pope John Paul II showed no interest in Fati..."Pope John Paul II showed no interest in Fatima until after he was shot."<br /><br />I think that statement is not entirely fair. John Paul II had a very passionate devotion to Mary from well before being ordained and certainly knew the errors of Russia very well from having lived under the communist thumb for most of his adult life. If he did not pay immediate, explicit, public heed toJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13693728555801144332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-40794361826842564112015-12-06T21:22:28.193-05:002015-12-06T21:22:28.193-05:00Anonymous said... Nonsense. The popes have been fe...<i>Anonymous said... Nonsense. The popes have been fervent pilgrims to Fatima. Pope John Paul II, shot on the May 13 feast, was certain that the Lady of Fatima had protected him and went to Fatima to present the bullet that had been in him to the holy Image. et c et cFatima attracts some fanatics and extremists of cult-like tendencies who detract from the Fatima message. The late Father Gruner DJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028761850444888285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-20285553103941517522015-12-06T21:20:43.201-05:002015-12-06T21:20:43.201-05:00Mary Ann what you said above stacks up against wha...Mary Ann what you said above stacks up against what Escriva's long time secretary had also stated, (Carmen del Tapia) That after returning from Tuy where he met her shortly after she put the Third Secret to paper, del Tapia states they were eager to hear all about his visit when he returned to Spain and that he just commented, "Lucia is a very silly woman but a good person." <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-938136256119334542015-12-06T20:17:46.737-05:002015-12-06T20:17:46.737-05:00Well, according to Mark Fellows book, Pope John Pa...Well, according to Mark Fellows book, Pope John Paul II showed no interest in Fatima until after he was shot. That was the point at which he began paying more attention to the Fatima message. John XXIII and Paul VI both dismissed Sister Lucia as a "peasant." John XXIII apparently did not believe the messages. Pope Pius XII consecrated the world to Mary, but most of the popes dismissed Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-13746682567710163342015-12-06T19:30:17.119-05:002015-12-06T19:30:17.119-05:00Nonsense. The popes have been fervent pilgrims to...Nonsense. The popes have been fervent pilgrims to Fatima. Pope John Paul II, shot on the May 13 feast, was certain that the Lady of Fatima had protected him and went to Fatima to present the bullet that had been in him to the holy Image. et c et c<br /><br />Fatima attracts some fanatics and extremists of cult-like tendencies who detract from the Fatima message. The late Father Gruner was a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-28084612046049128432015-12-06T16:45:21.160-05:002015-12-06T16:45:21.160-05:00Yes, sadly that statement was in the book, or perh...Yes, sadly that statement was in the book, or perhaps in the last one I read. None of the popes except John Paul I seemed to have taken Fatima seriously. <br /><br />I think perhaps the message of Portugal has to do with the faith of the people -- like all those simple souls who trudged through the mud for miles to see the miracle of the sun. If you look at the photos you don't see the "Mary Ann Kreitzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245237845099708478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-80582480243863199422015-12-06T13:55:18.742-05:002015-12-06T13:55:18.742-05:00That would include the "Bishop or Rome" ...That would include the "Bishop or Rome" aka the Pope I presume?<br />I remember when Lucia was brought up to meet P Paul the Sixth by Carlos Evaristo<br />( who appeared to be her handler). She went in tears and asked the Pope to speak privately with her .He refused telling her to speak with her Bishop.<br />Is that in the book you are reading Maryanne?<br /><br />Just this morning i Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-23601565264794702742015-12-05T21:06:55.395-05:002015-12-05T21:06:55.395-05:00It's like Naaman being told to go down to the ...It's like Naaman being told to go down to the Jordan River and dip himself seven times,but refusing ... as the man of God said .... had the prophet told you to do some great thing, would you not have done it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462894088321334277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8568419039847692717.post-87967266761558896362015-12-05T19:21:15.341-05:002015-12-05T19:21:15.341-05:00I became a Catholic in 2002 in my middle ages.
Thi...I became a Catholic in 2002 in my middle ages.<br />This is very hard for me to understand why the Pope and Bishops will not comply with Our Lady of Fatima's request for the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart <br />if it has not been done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com