Actually, the question is the answer. Most Catholic schools are raising hell --literally. Their administrations are busy drilling a shaft straight down to the sulphurous depths to give the demons access to their students. Welcome, Screwtape, Wormwood, Fleascratch, Snakebite, and all you other minions of his Lowness, the satanic father below. Hungry for a few coeds? - Help yourself. The dorms are filled with fornicators, drunks, and child-killers all enabled by liberal professors and pro-abortion guest speakers. Safe sex is the mantra at many campus health services with condoms freely available. As for parents, they never see the lewd ads and abortion clinic promos on bulletin boards because they're cleaned up for Parents' Weekend. Gotta keep the checkbook happy.
No curfews, no rules about who's in your room any hour of the day (or night), a wink and a smirk over the necktie on the doorknob to tell the roommate to take a hike.
Yup, it's hell on many Catholic campuses today and that doesn't even include promoting and enabling the "gay" lifestyle with "pride" and "gender bender" events.
Check out the studies: Cardinal Newman Society study and study by sociologist Amy Adamczyk that show kids at Catholic schools are more likely:
to abort
lose their faith
fornicate
contracept
approve of same-sex marriage
And this is why Catholic parents sacrifice to send their kids to Catholic schools?
A pox on all your campuses, I say, especially Notre Dame.
But there's good news too. Faithful Catholic Colleges like Christendom, Magdalen, Steubenville, St. Thomas Aquinas, and a handful of others are producing vocations to the priesthood and religious life. They offer many opportunities to grow in the faith. And they are often the best educational value for the money among Catholic schools as well.
Don't let fake Catholic schools that have sold out to the Rockefeller foundation and the federal government corrupters undermine and steal your children's faith. Go for the real thing, or keep the kids at local community colleges for two years and let them get a little more maturity under their belts before going to state schools. That way they can avoid the dorm brothels and live off campus.
But avoid the bad Catholic schools like the plague. Young people who play with devils are likely to get burnt.
Amen. Our kids went to state universities in the South with active Catholic student parishes. They went in and came out Catholic, so I'd say it was a wise move.
ReplyDeleteRe: Notre Dame: It was bizarre to see a Catholic priest authorizing the arrest of Catholics on Notre Dame's campus; arrested for upholding the principles of the gospel of life.
They were arrested because the UCCB is not pro life, and therefore did not support the pro life cause by forcing the ND president and former priest in line. No pressure from the UCCB no pro life support, It is a simple observation.
ReplyDeleteJim Dorchak
http://qm2ss.blogspot.com/
While Notre Dame's decision to honor President Obama with an honorary degree was clearly a violation of the Bishops' 2004 statement, you are simply in error when you lump ND under your blanket accusation of...
ReplyDeleteSafe sex is the mantra at many campus health services with condoms freely available. As for parents, they never see the lewd ads and abortion clinic promos on bulletin boards because they're cleaned up for Parents' Weekend. Gotta keep the checkbook happy.
No curfews, no rules about who's in your room any hour of the day (or night), a wink and a smirk over the necktie on the doorknob to tell the roommate to take a hike.
Living on campus for my entire time there as a student, there was no "Safe Sex" education, no abortion clinic promos on the bulletin boards at any time, no co-ed dorms or Greek system, parietals (curfews) were in effect - no opposite sex members in dorm after midnight on weeknights and 2am on weekends - every day of the week, and the "telling the roommate to take a hike" because of the roommate had 'company' simply did not happen.
There is plenty one can criticize Notre Dame about in regards to its Catholic identity. However, it would be a good idea to stick to things that the school is actually guilty of.
If I'm criticizing public schools and make a generalization about things that are going on, I don't think anyone would presume that every aberration was taking place at every school. The same here.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't saying that every Catholic school has a gay pride group or offers condoms at the health service. But there are plenty that do.
I think Notre Dame deserves particular criticism (which is why I mentioned them specifically) because of their honoring of our pro-abortion pro-infanticide president.
President Jenkins had real Catholics arrested for carrying anti-Obama signs while letting pro-Obama folks carry all the signs they wanted. That was especially treacherous, even worse than some of the other things mentioned here.
If I'm criticizing public schools and make a generalization about things that are going on, I don't think anyone would presume that every aberration was taking place at every school. The same here.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't saying that every Catholic school has a gay pride group or offers condoms at the health service....
Right.
Suppose I wrote the following:
"Commenters on blogs are hellish. They use foul language, make vicious personal attacks, post vile pictures and illustrations, and even use any information you may provide to harass you.
A pox to all you commenters, I say, especially Mary Ann Kreitzer."
I find it hard to believe that you would not respond to such a missive to (rightly) point out that you have not done any of those things. I find it harder to believe that I could get away with responding back to you with "Oh, I didn't mean that you had done any of those things. Other commenters on other blogs have, though. I singled you out - indeed, you were the only one targeted by name - because you insinuated that a lot of things are going on at Notre Dame that are not."
As disappointed as I am with Notre Dame, as hurt as the whole Obama commencement honor made me, I will continue to work in strengthening Notre Dame's Catholic identity. I find it disappointing that so many Catholics have abandoned Our Lady's university when she needs them most.
Sorry, Jerry, you can't make that kind of a case for Notre Dame. LifeSiteNews ran an article on Notre Dame's 40 year history of betrayal including establishing a "gay" club with a "queer film festival" and inviting a number of terrible speakers from Mario Cuomo back in the old days to the infanticide president today. http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/may/09050601.html
ReplyDeleteDissent is endemic and has been since the Land o' Lakes Conference. Then there's Notre Dame's involvement with the Vagina Monologues beginning in 2002. The students cancelled the show in 2009 making it clear, however, that the university had not required them to do so.
If you want to support your alma mater, that's your decision, but universities that try to play both sides of the game remind me of the commercial "Anything you want on cable TV." It's your choice - porn or EWTN. As a parent/granparent I would not be inclined to support that approach to education. Hence, our kids went to state universities where the immorality at least wasn't under the banner of the Catholic Church.
Ms. Kreitzer,
ReplyDeleteAs I said in my original comment, there is plenty one can criticize Notre Dame about in regards to its Catholic identity. In your latest comment, you identified a few of the "plenty". However, none of these reasons were among the litany of charges that, as I illustrated in my second comment, were insinuated as being part of Notre Dame student life. The article certainly insinuated that a student at Notre Dame, if not a "fornicator" or "baby-killer" him-/herself, was exposed to 'safe sex' and abortion propaganda and engaged in co-ed sleepovers, both as a matter of routine. This is simply not true. I have no problem with people criticizing Notre Dame, provided that their criticism is aimed at things Notre Dame is actually guilty of.
The "Queer Film Festival" is one of those things Notre Dame deserves criticism for. However, your account does not supply much in the way of facts about ND's "gay" club. The original "gay" club, NDGLSMC, was not established by the university, nor did it receive funding or recognition from the university. They would meet on campus, though they could not and did not advertise these meetings publicly. In the spring of 1995, however, the group did advertise a meeting on campus, and demanded recognition. The university banned them from campus, and despite enormous pressure from extremely "progressive" elements both internal and external to ND, they still do not have university recognition or funding. The university, in response to their banning of GLNDSMC in 1995, did establish the Core Council for Gay and Lesbian Students, whose website includes links to "Always Our Children: A Pastoral Message to Parents of Homosexual Children and Suggestions for Pastoral Ministers" and to pages on Church teaching about homosexuality.
All this being said, the "Queer Film Festival" was not acceptable. It began under Monk Malloy's presidentship, and though allowed to continue under president Jenkins, he proceeded to add new restrictions and conditions to the production each year until the organizers canceled it this year. I'm sure that the good folks at The Sycamore Trust, a group of alumni dedicated to preserving and enhancing ND's Catholic identity, had some role in its demise, given their consistent campaigning against the film festival.
Likewise the Vagina Monologues. No, the university didn't shut it down, but the students who put the play on decided all the "negative publicity" garnered by its production wasn't worth it. Again, the Sycamore Trust played a large role in producing a large amount the "negative publicity".
So, as you see, I can support ND through the Sycamore Trust, through the Center for Ethic and Culture, and designated donations (rather than to the general fund) or I could go the "condemn and abandon" route of the Cardinal Newman Society and "The Wanderer" crowd. By doing the former, there is a good chance that my voice and concerns will be heard, and positive changes will occur; by doing the latter, I have pretty much removed myself from having any influence whatsoever in ND's direction. The Obama fiasco was a setback, but it has only strengthened my resolve; this is not a 4-year fight, but a 40-year fight. As Raymond Arroyo of EWTN remarked about ND's Catholic identity, "There's still a lot of sap in the tree.", and as Fr. Raymond DeSouza stated in an article about the ND-Obama mess, "The reason why it's a controversy is because Notre Dame is a real Catholic university."
If you wish to surrender Notre Dame to secularism, that's your decision. When it comes to Notre Dame's Catholic identity, I will never surrender.
Interesting thread ... not sure what the point is ... Notre Dame surrendered to secularism a long time ago ... Hello! Earth to Jerry!
ReplyDeleteI might add that most of the other Catholic Colleges with exceptions you can pretty much count on the fingers without running out, have also surrendered.
They could be heroic standards of morality and excellence but they just waffled and joined the Zeitgeist.
Pathetic!