Fr. Tom Rosica, and assistant to Lombardi [Vatican spokesman at the time], told CBS News that the meeting was arranged solely by the nuncio.
The Liberty Counsel, an organization that actively opposes gay rights, disputes that the meeting was unsolicited by the Vatican.
The Liberty Council said in a statement that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano personally spoke with Kim Davis about the invitation to meet with the pope during his trip to the United States. "The private meeting request was unsolicited and facilitated by Vatican officials," says the statement from Liberty Counsel.
Davis is an Apostolic Christian, spent five days in jail for defying a series of federal court orders to issue same-sex marriage licenses after the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage across the country.
Last year the Supreme Court refused to take Davis' appeal of the federal court ruling against her.
Fast forward eight years. The LGBTQ+ juggernaut continues aided and abetted by the pope. All one has to do to understand that is to note radical homosexualist Fr. James Martin's assignment as a consultor to the Vatican communications office. Add to that the pope tapping him to attend the Synod which is now in progress and likely to further advance the gay agenda with the assistance of Martin's and many other gay-supporting radicals at the meeting.
Which brings me to an excellent article by Monica Miller about the question on the table: blessing same-sex unions.
Understanding Pope Francis’ Response to Same-Sex Union Blessings
With the synod and the pope's continuous ambiguous statements, we are watching Catholic doctrine on marriage and sexuality undermined at the synod. Just like the pope told the Argentine bishops their interpretation of Amoris Laetitia allowing Communion for the divorced and remarried in some situations (which will gradually morph into all situations) was correct; he now is saying priests can decide for themselves about blessings for gay unions...but, of course, it won't be "marriage." And already some of the wolves in clerics, like Bishop John Stowe of Lexington, KY are hot to curse those poor disordered individuals engaged in mortal sin with "blessings."
Anyone with eyes to see can tell that Francis is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He isn't the first wolf to sit in Peter's chair. Let's pray he's the last. We know what God says about the wolves in the sheepfold. "Woe to the pastors, that destroy and tear the sheep of my pasture, saith the Lord. Therefore thus saith the Lord the God of Israel to the pastors that feed my people: You have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold I will visit upon you for the evil of your doings, saith the Lord." [Jeremiah 23:1-2]
I recommend Monica's article:
Understanding Pope Francis’ Response to Same-Sex Union Blessings
Archbishop Lori is following suit. See https://catholicreview.org/archbishop-lori-issues-guidelines-for-pastoral-accompaniment-of-lgbt-catholics/
ReplyDeleteNot sure what the big deal is here....as I learned from you, Aqua, and Richard, popes don't really matter and you're free to decide on your own which teachings are authentic and binding.
ReplyDeleteEdison, You obviously spend too much time playing frisbee and not enough time studying the catechism and Catholic doctrine. The Church herself teaches what doctrines are "authentic and binding." Making pronouncements about climate change and COVID are not among them, nor is contradicting doctrines taught as binding for millennia.
ReplyDeleteMr Frisbee:
ReplyDeleteRe: First Commandment
"I am YHWH your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: you shall not bow yourself down to them, nor serve them, for I, YHWH your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and on the fourth generation of those who hate me, and showing loving kindness to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."— Exodus 20:2-6
Our Holy Father Francis has been caught on tape three times engaging in idol worship in the Vatican.
And yes I have decided on my own not to join Pope Francis in pagan idol worship.
God bless
Richard W Comerford
Pope he may be Mr. Comerford, but you are being most generous in designating him “Holy” Father.
DeleteSo this is the circle I can't square with you all. You acknowledge that Francis is "contradicting doctrines taught as binding for millenia" (FWIW, my understanding is that the heretical Amoris Laetitia is now considered magisterial based on its publication in the AAS) and that he is essentially a "three time" manifest heretic. But if anyone questions his legitimacy or suggests he's an anti-pope (of which the Church has had dozens), you absolutely lose your minds and consider it "unthinkable."
ReplyDeleteWell, Edison, I think there are a lot of ramifications to saying he is not pope. Are the bishops he names not bishops? And if they aren’t, then are all their ordinations invalid? Do we have a lot of priests who aren’t really priests because they were ordained by men who weren’t really bishops? Things get pretty dicey pretty fast.
ReplyDeletePerhaps "supplied jurisdiction" would apply...I really don't know. But you can't dismiss the possibility that he is not the pope just because you don't like the ramifications.
DeleteMr Frisbee:
ReplyDeleteRe: "But if anyone questions his legitimacy or suggests he's an anti-pope (of which the Church has had dozens), you absolutely lose your minds and consider it "unthinkable."
Last week Archbishop Vigano opined in a clear and rational manner that the Pope may not be the Pope. Fine. But he kept his discourse civil. He is a remarkable man. That is the way to do it.
God bless
Richard W Comerford
Well, Edison, that made me laugh. As if having no valid priests (which means no Eucharist) is unimportant.
ReplyDeleteI leave the matter of whether he is pope to the hierarchy. I will presume Francis is pope until declared otherwise by those with authority -- something I do not have. But whether Francis is or is not pope will not change anything about the way I believe, pray, or keep the faith. So, frankly, I don't worry about it.
At no time did I say or imply that not having valid priests was unimportant....you're making a strawman argument.
ReplyDeleteTime to acknowledge Pope Michael?
ReplyDelete" I will presume Francis is pope until declared otherwise by those with authority -- something I do not have. But whether Francis is or is not pope will not change anything about the way I believe, pray, or keep the faith. So, frankly, I don't worry about it. "
ReplyDeleteSuch apathy was not the strategy of Saint Catherine of Siena. Yes, the final say on the papacy belongs to "authorized" bishops (who may turn out to be *only* those ordained before 2013!)
But the *authority* of canon law also must be appreciated...and its logic that an erroneous resignation does not vacate the seat.
How did retroactive priestly ordinations get resolved with prior antipapacies?
With all this happening while SoS happening concurrently with Israel implosion, I recommend everyone read "Lord of the World" (a book
recommend from *both* Popes Francis *and* Benedict!)
Shout out to my sisters. Also, I love Pope Francis's big inclusive heart!
ReplyDeleteMr Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteRe: "but you are being most generous in designating him “Holy” Father"
Back in the day Sister Mary Francita said that Holy ground, Holy Land, Holy Roman Empire and Holy Father referred to a thing or person dedicated to God not to personal virtue.
God bless
Richard W Comerford
Ms Susie:
ReplyDeleteRe: "I love Pope Francis's big inclusive heart!"
The heart in question includes abortionists but excludes pro-lifers.
It includes predatory sodomites but excludes their victims.
It includes pagan idol worshipers but excludes Latin mass goers.
It includes lesbian sisters but excludes cloistered nuns.
It includes immigrant men but excludes the woman they rape.
It includes Father Rupnik but excludes the nuns he abused.
It includes Msgr. Ricca but excludes the boys he molested.
It includes Communists but excludes Catholics.
Kindly reflect
God bless
Richard W Comerford
Susie,
ReplyDeleteBergoglio's "big inclusive heart" doesn't include everyone. Is that OK with you? Will you now become Catholic again since you think Francis is inclusive?