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Thursday, December 29, 2022

If You've Been Following the Fr. Pavone "Debacle" You Need to Read One Mad Mom's Post

In a long life of pro-life activism, I've never held the mangled dead body of an aborted baby. I've never gone through the trash at an abortion mill. I've never participated in the burial of a tiny abortion victim. I know a number of pro-lifers who have and I respect them more than words can express. Fr. Paul Marx did. Fr. Frank Pavone did. 

To bury the dead is a corporal work of mercy. Sometimes it's a work not welcome by the powers that be. Think of ancient Greece. Sophocles writes of Antigone's defiance of the king who forbids the burial of Antigone's brother killed in battle. She does it anyway. To be denied burial, in Greek mythology, meant wandering forever on the shores of the River Acheron never able to enter the underworld. Antigone's punishment is to be buried alive. The king repents of his decision, but when he goes to free her she has hanged herself. In the aftermath, the family of the king is decimated by suicides. His line is ended. There are consequences when power is abused.

One Mad Mom's article on "formerly Fr. Pavone" is poignant and heart-rending. She wrote it on the Feast of the Holy Innocents, the little ones defended by "Frank Pavone." It's well worth reading. Let us pray for "formerly Fr. Pavone" and all those who work unceasingly for the little ones murdered so brutally and so much ignored by many of our spiritual fathers.


  1. There is no debacle. The pope has the authority to do this per Vatican One and if you disagree you instantly cease to be Catholuc and excommunicate yourself per Vatican One.

    1. Just curious if you actually read the post because it doesn’t appear so?

  2. Why should a priest provide a funeral to console a murderer? funerals are for the living. If he had taken the job all he could preach is "you're going to hell for murdering your kid, bitch." She should have gone to the Synagogue where she belonged and got a rabbi to burry her guilt.

  3. Pavone holds rape exceptions like his hero trump. He is not prolife. He is even more culpable because he should know what the Catholic teaching in abortion is. Another priest could have ostentatiously buried the fetus that pavone would have aborted. Where does that get us? At least if you're going to name your organization priests for life make sure you're as prolife as Catholic teaching otherwise you will lead others astray. Arguably this contraction could have factored into the reaaon he was cut loose.

  4. Rohrbachs,

    Can you provide some evidence that Fr. Pavone favored a rape exception? I have never seen anything that indicates that! Provide some evidence. Statements? Links? If you have no evidence that's slander.

    Mary Ann

  5. Transitivity. Trump favors rape exceptions "Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump's pro-life stance is being called into question after he said he would "absolutely" change the Republican Party's platform on abortion to include the exceptions of rape, incest and to save the mother's life.

    Trump was on NBC's "Today" show on Thursday and was asked if he would make any changes to the GOP's platform on abortion, as the current party platform is silent when it comes to exceptions

    "Yes, I would. Absolutely, for the three exceptions, I would," the billionaire real estate Mogul responded."

    Pavone has emailed me with nauseating regularity about Trump rallies (still!):"Be sure to tune in to President Trump’s two rallies this weekend and encourage others to watch. The first will be on Saturday, October 8 from Minden, NV at 10 pm ET. The second is Sunday, October 9 from Mesa, AZ at 7 pm ET. You can watch live thanks to our friends at Right Side Broadcasting Network ( or on our own website at In both places, it will also be archived for future viewing and sharing as well. "

    I am sick of it. Trump is NOT the "most prolife president ever". To try to molest the GOP's abolition-ready platform with rape exceptions was an outrageously evil disqualifier.

    Read "prolife profiles" on Pavone. NOT the "most prolife priest ever", though he plays one on TV.

    1. Trump is the most pro-life president since Roe...and now Roe is gone. So you're just a nut.

  6. Roe is gone and so what. That was a stupid (or devious) goal trump set because kicking it back to the states takes the wind of inalienable out of the sails of created equal. A real prolifer would have set abolition as the goal.

  7. Comment received via email:

    Fr. Groiner said...

    "There is no debacle. The pope has the authority to do this per Vatican One and if you disagree you instantly cease to be Catholuc and excommunicate yourself per Vatican One."

    Laicization was not mentioned in the Documents of Vatican I. Nor was excommunication. (See EWTN for Documents)

    Also. Galatians 2: 11-14: "When Peter came to Antioch, I told him face to face that he was wrong. He used to eat with Gentile followers of the Lord, until James sent some Jewish followers. Peter was afraid of the Jews and soon stopped eating with Gentiles. He and the others hid their true feelings so well that even Barnabas was fooled. But when I saw they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone and said:Peter, you are a Jew, but you live like a Gentile. So how can you force Gentiles to live like Jews?"
    Further. We should not forget that the Church (bureaucracy thereof) declared Joan of Arc a heretic and had her burned alive and then scattered her ashes in the river to prevent veneration by the faithful.

    Finally, Laicization and excommunications are fallible acts. Please recall that Fr. Feeney was allegedly excommunicated by Pope Pius XII and then returned by Pope Paul VI.

    God bless

    Richard W Comerford