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Monday, October 14, 2024

Is a Vote for Trump Formal Cooperation with Evil?

A discussion came up in the comment section yesterday on the Tulsi Gabbard post about whether a Catholic commits a mortal sin by voting for Trump. You can read the discussion here. It started with a priest preaching that you can never vote for a candidate who supports an intrinsic moral evil. The reader who commented raised the question of whether the fact that Trump has endorsed IVF and even inserted it into the GOP platform disqualifies him from the Catholic vote. Correct me if I'm wrong, Aqua. 

Hmmm...True or false?

I did not hear the sermon so I can't comment on that; I only have the reader's brief description. Did the priest explain the distinction between formal and material cooperation with evil? That's where the rubber meets the road, I think. 

A Catholic may never formally cooperate with evil. That is a mortal sin. If I buy Pampers knowing that the company supports Planned Parenthood (a head scratcher if there ever was one! What company thrives by killing their customers?), I cooperate with evil. But I doubt anyone is buying their diapers because they support an organization that can aptly be called Murder Incorporated. Their cooperation is material. 

If, on the other hand, they choose Pampers deliberately because they support PP, their cooperation is formal. No one may directly choose a grave moral evil without committing a grave sin.

Let's look more deeply. Catholic Answers has a series on the question of cooperating with evil. I'll quote from Part IV, Can Catholics Vote for Pro-Choicers

Even little decisions we make in life can bring us into contact with evil done by others. For example, a company can take the money I spend in its stores and use it to support immoral causes. Theologians call this moral cooperation with evil, and there are two basic kinds.

Formal cooperation is when I intend to promote the evil—for example, by giving money to Planned Parenthood so it can perform abortions.

Material cooperation, on the other hand, occurs when I provide some of the means for the evil but don’t intend the evil, such as when I buy goods at a store, and the store donates some of that money to Planned Parenthood.

There's the distinction. Do we use our vote to deliberately promote the evil in question, whether it's abortion, contraception, IVF or any other gravely and intrinsically evil choice? If we do that, we've committed, at least objectively, a mortal sin. And it's prudent to remember that even one unrepented mortal sin can send us to hell!

The article goes on:

Catholics may never formally cooperate with evil, but we may materially cooperate under certain circumstances.

First, our cooperation must be remote, that is, far removed from the evil that it supports. Much of our activity as consumers falls into this category. That’s why it’s not a sin to buy groceries at a store that’s part of a chain that donates to a foundation that supports charities that may fund contraception distribution.

Second, there must be a proportionately good reason to justify the cooperation. The good being sought must outweigh the harm caused by our relatively negligible cooperation. Frivolous consumer activity that materially supports a serious evil may not be justifiable even if it is fairly remote.

This is why I don't patronize Starbucks or buy Ben and Jerry's ice cream. But how many people can keep track of all the companies supporting grave moral evils? It's overwhelming and most of us are simply ignorant about the charitable activities of the restaurants, hotels, etc. that we patronize.

The moral issue that triggered this discussion is IVF, not abortion; but the reasoning is the same. To continue: 

In our previous essays we showed that it is gravely sinful to formally cooperate with abortion. We may never directly vote to support it or vote for a candidate because he will support it. But in rare cases, a Catholic could materially cooperate even in the evil of abortion if the cooperation is remote and there is a proportionately good reason for doing so.

As Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger (the future Pope Benedict XVI) put it, “When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons.”

So, yes, Trump supports grave moral evils. So does Harris. In fact, I think one could accurately say she craves abortion/contraception/IVF/euthanasia like Hunter Biden craves sex and drugs.

Are the "proportionate reasons" in this election serious enough to allow a Catholic to vote at all since both candidates support intrinsic moral evils?

These proportionate reasons would have to show that the candidate who is an alternative to a pro-abortion candidate actually supports more evils of a gravity equal to abortion than that pro-abortion candidate. Since abortion is so grave, this is a very rare circumstance, and accordingly the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops says, “Voting in this way would be permissible only for truly grave moral reasons, not to advance narrow interests or partisan preferences or to ignore a fundamental moral evil.”

This means that Catholics could not vote for a candidate who endorses an intrinsic evil such as legal abortion merely because they prefer that candidate’s party or because they find the other candidate unlikeable or even morally reprehensible in his personal conduct. And as we noted last time, voting for a pro-abortion candidate also wouldn’t be justified merely because you disagreed with the other candidate’s views on an issue Catholics could reasonably disagree about.

So let's cut to the chase: 

But what should we do if two viable candidates in an election both support legal abortion? [or IVF]. In this case, a Catholic may vote for the one who, as the USCCB says, is “deemed less likely to advance such a morally flawed position and more likely to pursue other authentic human goods.”

For example, a Catholic could vote for a candidate in spite of his support of legal abortion [or IVF] if the other pro-abortion candidate also wanted to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions. In this case, the pro-abortion candidate is merely tolerated in order to prevent the election of a candidate who endorses even more evil.

It's hard to argue that Trump "endorses even more evil" than Kamala Harris. Nevertheless, I understand the dilemma many people are facing. I will never try to force anyone's conscience and I am praying two election novenas that the election results be according to God's will. I will do the best I can with my own vote to be obedient to His Providence. At present, I intend to vote for Trump despite his support for IVF and other moral evils. I believe support for IVF is likely, as happened with Roe, to be a decision for the States. While I would like all of these evils to be outlawed nationally, the likelihood of that happening has the chance of a snowman in hell cooling the place. 

I offer some final thoughts, however, from another article preceding the 2020 election published by the US District of the SSPX:

  • Pope Pius XII decreed that there is a moral imperative (duty) for Catholics to vote in elections.
  • In the United States, our choices are no longer between Catholic and non-Catholic.
  • In practice, it generally comes down to the question of whether or not it is obligatory or permissible to vote for a "lesser of two evils"
  • In such a case, there can be no obligation to vote, for all the reasons mentioned by Pope Pius XII below no longer apply.
  • it is permissible to vote in such a case, provided that one can be sure that there truly is a lesser evil, and that there is a grave reason to do so.
May we each cast our votes from our knees and be at peace over the outcome. Our salvation is not in politics or in any candidate, and whatever God allows will be for our good. May we all worship Christ our King and work to bring about His kingdom here on earth.

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
Our Lady, Seat of Wisdom, pray for us.
St. Joseph, Patron of the Universal Church, pray for us.

24 comments:

  1. Trump is probably the first candidate that I will vote for that presents this dilemma. In the past it was fairly easy. The pro abortion candidate usually also supported all the other choices I was against. I don't think I ever voted for a pro life candidate who was for everything else I was opposed to.

    But Trump has made it clear he's all in on the alphabet people and artificial reproduction. But it seems to me we can't turn back the anti life tide if we just throw our hands up and not vote.If Harris wins it will be much worse and even harder to fight back.

    Personally I think abortion kills a person and that puts it on the same level as slavery during the civil war.That was not solved at the state level. I don't think abortion will be solved at the state level.

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    1. Margaret,
      I completely agree with your observation on this new “dilemma” presented by an otherwise outstanding candidate (in most ways).

      As to your dilemma analogy, I think it’s worse than slavery. The current dilemma is, as I say in my comment below, more like the Jewish shoah, the new holocaust. It is worse even than mass murder. IVF is “flying in under the radar” because most people don’t really know what it is, the full extent of what it is and all the evil commercial possibilities that flow from it. Most people (including me) have never thought much about it (interestingly I was reminded by my wife that she has known of this evil since our early days of marriage over 30 years ago when we had “fertility issues” … prior to our Catholic conversion she knew this was wrong and we chose adoption instead - 8 adopted children so far). Now that I have also become convinced of what she intuitively knew, I think it may very well be worse than abortion because it is bigger and goes beyond it and it also gets the ignorant persons of good-will to participate in the crimes without fully understanding them before they begin.

      I also agree, that ultimately these Life issues, existential as they are, will not be settled at the State level but at the national via a Federal Constitutional amendment (or more). Either way it goes, for or against, these issues are too big to just leave it to States’ or personal opinion.

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  2. I appreciate this article. I skimmed it, and will read it in more detail later.

    My initial response is kind of along the lines of my initial response after hearing my Priest’s sermon: would I vote for a candidate that was perfect in every way, promised to restore all sorts of freedoms, protect religious freedom, grow the economy, get us out of pointless wars, abolish abortion (etc). But he has one major flaw in his platform: *he promises he will rid our society of the “Jewish problem” through a new “Shoah”.

    It is easier for me to apply my Priest’s reasoning to this, since it is a known, historical evil. Obviously … no to the Nth power, no! But I would contend, IVF is worse than that in many particular ways.

    That is my reasoning. I am willing to be persuaded otherwise, if my logic is bad.

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  3. The choice is not between Trump, Harris, or no vote at all. There are third party candidates, including one very well-known and unabashed pro-lifer, who we can also vote for. I reject the idea that such a vote is effectively a vote for the greater of two evils by "throwing away" a vote for someone who has a snowball's chance in Miami of winning. To accept such an idea would be to accept the principle that a morally unobjectionable vote is (not "may be," but actually "IS") somehow morally objectionable. In effect that would make a vote for an evil (even if lesser) an obligation, not just a permissible action.

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  4. Material cooperation is permitted, but isn’t twisting Church to claim that something that is permissible is now obligatory formally evil? Lots of people are doing that because they do not see kayfabe going on.

    If it will be of any consolation Trump will probably win, unless they start a war or pandemic, to make it look stolen.

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    1. I'm a little confused by your comment. Are you saying that some people are claiming voting for the "lesser of two evils" is obligatory? And what do you mean by kayfabe? Maybe I'm just dense but I don't understand your comment.

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    2. I'm confused by Anon's comment too, but I have had people try to tell me that a vote for Trump is almost obligatory. I've been fairly open about my misgivings over voting for him and the reaction is somewhat similar to what I would imagine I would get if I expressed doubts about the Resurrection. There's a very emotional component to this that seems to be overriding an ability to even consider taking a step back and looking at basic principles. Others may come to different conclusions, but for Pete's sake, I don't understand the unswerving loyalty to Trump when he has demonstrated that there are limits to how much he can be trusted.

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    3. Well stated, Phlogiston, I agree completely. I have not and will not contribute to the Trump campaign. The most my husband and I will do is put up yard signs. I will not condemn those who choose not to vote for him, but I will not join their anti-Trump extremism either. Life is a challenge. We need to inform our consciences and do the best we can. After that, we need to treat each other with respect. Life is hard enough without destroying relationships over politics.

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    4. Phlogiston - if I had to guess, the reaction you describe is generated by fear - fear of being consumed by the Bolshevik beast. It is not an unfounded fear. But … “perfect love casts out all fear” (I John 4:18) and as Catholics our calling is to live for Christ, no matter the cost. And to love those brothers and sisters struggling alongside us in this veil of tears, trying to find our way Home.

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    5. Mary Ann: Kayfabe is a term used in professional wrestling to describe the portrayal of staged events as being true, which we all know by now is exactly the case in that so-called "sport." It's all staged for entertainment value. The term has been applied to Trump as he was at one time very involved in the wrestling "industry." Some see his candidacy as being staged to present him as the answer to all our problems. Looking at the way he actively sought to get the Republican platform changed to downplay the abortion issue and to support the alphabet people, his rabid support of Israel and Zionism, etc., it's not hard to see how one might think that he is merely controlled opposition. The question we Catholics should be asking ourselves is: now that the Republicans, with Trump as their standard bearer, have abandoned the pro-life issue and embraced the gender garbage, can we realistically expect that, if Trump wins the election and the Republicans gain power in the legislature, God will bless America? I personally sympathize with those who refuse to compromise their Catholic faith by voting for the so-called "lesser of two evils." Why should one have to vote for any evil at all? I may be one of them; I'm still praying about it.

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    6. Thank you for the explanation, Elizanna. I agree. We are ruled by the uniparty. I'm still a registered Republican in Virginia, but I do not support the party. I only support individual candidates. Trump hasn't lost my vote yet because of the demonic evils coming in over the border as well as the rabid radicalism of the Democrats. But I will not donate. The most support he gets at this point is a yard sign. I can't, however, believe that a man with his ego would agree to the kind of demonization he's received from the left. Not to mention the assassination attempts. As you are doing, I continue to pray and trust in God. Our country deserves any punishment we receive through imposition of evil leaders. The Old Testament is a guide on that. The answer is repentance and conversion.

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    7. In the hierarchy of reasons to support Trump over the Bolsheviks … this new fresh hell ranks up there pretty high too.

      https://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2024/10/14/exclusive-biden-harris-admin-paves-way-for-bureaucrats-to-take-gender-confused-kids-from-non-affirming-parents/

      They are re-purposing HHS into a Federal CPS to take custody over children from parents who fail to affirm “gender” perversions.

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    8. "I can't, however, believe that a man with his ego would agree to the kind of demonization he's received from the left. ". Remember he was marinated in the wrestling entertainment genre and steeped in the reality actor tv. And, arguably was granted big bucks bailouts from bankruptcy by banksters... Who knows but that this presidency is yet another reality act he's being paid for. 2020 certainly felt like that.


      As to aquas transgender parent article, that is chilling but remember president warp speed approved a man competing in Miss America *early on*, always accepted obergefell as settled law, parties gays at maralago, and basically let transgender/ssm incubate during his presidency, instead of shutting down obergefell. His lockdowns arguably sent many into psych crisis for which he has never apologized. Arguably he will be run by the same apparatus that runs Biden Harris. You should watch Michael Matt's very recent video with Bishop Schneider who is familiar with the Soviet uniparty schtick.

      The ratchet downward will continue.

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  5. This article was good, and in line with everything I read from trusted sources. The best source, always from the Priesthood, was one I found from Fr Z …

    Is a vote for “the lesser of two evils” still a vote “for evil”? (26 October 2020 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf)

    https://wdtprs.com/2020/10/ask-father-is-a-vote-for-the-lesser-of-two-evils-still-a-vote-for-evil/

    Here are a few hi-lites that stood out as persuasive to me

    1 (lesser of two evils): “There are times when we must act but, in acting, means that we have to tolerate evils which we do not will. It is permissible to tolerate the lesser of two evils for the common good. It is permissible to vote or campaign for a candidate whose party platform contains evils with which we do not agree. However, this toleration depends upon a hierarchy of issues, certain things having preeminence over others. For example, if a candidate is solidly pro-life and against abortion, and the other is solidly pro-abortion, the choice is obvious, because of the preeminence of the right to life. At the same time, if one candidate is in the main against abortion but would permit it in cases of incest, etc. etc., and the other candidate is for abortion up to the moment of birth, the choice is obvious, because one can tolerate the lesser of two evils.”

    2 (from the Angelic Doctor): “St. Thomas Aquinas taught that we can act to limit possible evil. In that case, the object of the will is a possible good, not an impossible good (STh I-II q. 13, a5). St. John Paul II taught in Evangelium vitae that it is legitimate for a legislator to vote for a more restrictive law regarding abortion if the alternative is a less restrictive law.”

    3 (Augustine on the conflict between heaven and earth): “St. Augustine teaches correctly that only in heaven will there be vera iustitia… true justice. He teaches that government is a necessary evil because of the fall of mankind in Original Sin. Government is a kind of necessary evil. Most of our social structures are a result of sin. The fact that they are are inflictions, in a sense, does not dispense us from participation in society. We must be involved precisely as Catholics striving to live as if we already are citizens of the City of God. It is our work here to bring Christ to all the corners we are able to influence. Voting is a way to do that, even though the whole thing is sub-optimal in light of what awaits us in heaven.”

    My conclusion from this blog and further study is that we are permitted to vote for a candidate, even if that candidate holds a policy position that is gravely evil *under certain conditions and caveats*. We are not required to vote, not voting *can be* a legitimate option. To the extent conscience allows, we *should vote* with *the sole purpose of advancing the Kingship of Christ*, to the extent we can in this fallen world.

    I think I misinterpreted my Priest’s salient point. I didn’t catch some of the nuance. If I ever hear from him on this question I posed, I will include his advice here (with his permission ).

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  6. Gee. So where does the moral analysis place Cathollic Charities vis-a-vis illegal immigration?

    I'm thinking proximate material, possibly formal material for a couple of specific Bishops.

    As to the Trump thing, he's an LBJ Democrat. My overriding concern, however, are my grandchildren. It is not a "good" to turn them over to a Totalitarian Materialist/Communist state.

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  7. I just heard back from my Priest to resolve the questions I posed to him about his sermon. In summary, his response was that both candidates are poor on life issues … Trump is worse on IVF, Kamala is worse on abortion … there are other moral issues which are similarly muddy … it is possible to prudentially choose Trump as the lesser of two evils, but not by much - he is poor on life; but it is impossible to support Kamala for that reason, which would be a mortal sin - she is evil on life; no voting would also be a reasonable response.

    So, he pretty much supports the contents and conclusion of your article, above.

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    1. Thanks Aqua. I find it hard to believe Trump is worse on IVF since Harris supports whatever reproductive technology women want to use. No restrictions. And there are other life issues from our open borders. How many kids are being killed by the drug cartels pouring fentanyl into the country and how much innocence is being murdered by sex traffickers. And then there are the terrorists coming in and released. Closing the border alone would save lives. I agree that voting for Harris is a mortal sin. I wish more Catholics voted according to their reason rather than their feelings.

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    2. Mary Ann, Fr Palko said Trump was worse on IVF *because he supports federal funding for the IVF industry*, and so far Kamala does not.

      The entire hierarchy of issues being discussed hereis not theoretical. These are going to affect each of us, personally, in spiritual ways that will affect our eternal destiny.

      I’ve never experienced anything like this in my 60 + years. It’s always been about policy differences until now. This election outcome will seriously affect me and my family at the practical, spiritual level - starting with simply making a correct choice in accord with God’s will, when all roads are bad roads.

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    3. US Citizens Were 80.2 Percent of Crossers with Fentanyl at Ports of Entry from 2019 to 2024 ...Drug trafficking organizations hire US citizens because they are guaranteed the right of entry into the United States and are subject to less scrutiny at ports than individuals without citizenship (Cato is conservative)
      https://www.cato.org/blog/us-citizens-were-802-crossers-fentanyl-ports-entry-2019-2024

      Trump isn't going to do anything about the border -- the rich want open borders for the free labor. He's not going to do anything about sex trafficking either since he is one of their biggest customers if his relation with Epstein is any indication. You're on your death bed, how would you look at deporting 11 million people in the eyes of Jesus whom you are about to meet in one hour and penalty is hell for all eternity? To pretend it is a mortal sin to vote for Harris but not for Trump even though his supreme court picks expand lgbtq rights and support federalism vs. anti-abortion (i.e. have no objection to a constitutional amendment for abortion or state laws/constitutions legalizing abortion) just shows you are as good as Democrats at making excuses for what you want to do. Both candidates are pro-abortion. Abortion is always wrong. Fliers I receive say that Harris would kill babies through 9 months, but Trump has given it to the states and many states are killing babies through the ninth month (including mine) so what is the difference? Calling Harris a Bolshevik may mean something to you, but it was Hitler who came to power fighting the Bolsheviks (who actually called themselves Bolsheviks). I prayed at an abortion clinic in Maryland 2009-2011 and 90 percent of the Catholics praying there were Democrat. The man leading the campaign whose parents had participated in anti-nuclear power/war demonstrations in his youth had just changed his party. He didn't seem too sure about the decision. These Democrats told me that the Republicans just wanted my vote and weren't going to do anything about abortion (which has proved correct). They were voting Democrat despite the candidate's abortion position not because of it (perhaps they made amends by praying at abortion clinics, going to the march for life, etc.--what do you all do to help the stranger?). I don't think they are guilty of mortal sin. Nor do I think they are communists. I think you all could be committing mortal sin by saying anyone who votes for Harris is committing a mortal sin.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler%27s_rise_to_power
      https://www.npr.org/2020/06/15/863498848/supreme-court-delivers-major-victory-to-lgbtq-employees

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    4. Aqua, I disagree that not voting is a reasonable choice here. It is our obligation as Catholics to vote. I have come to the conclusion, for all the position points stated, that I can not in good conscience vote for either Trump or Harris. I can understand the reasons to view Trump as a lesser evil than Harris. But for me, the difference isn't great enough. But it does not follow that refraining from voting is a valid option. As I mentioned, there are third party candidates, including Randall Terry who isn't even slightly objectionable on abortion, that we can vote for. Yes, Randall Terry has a snowball's chance in Miami of even being a blip on the electoral radar. but if people get used to the idea of voting for candidates like him, in a few election cycles, it could cause at least the Republican party to stop treating the prolife movement the way an abusive husband treat his wife. They talk nicely to us when they want something from us, or at least just barely nicely enough, with the threat that the other guy is worse, but once they get our votes and support, they ignore us, try to shut us up and treat us like we are crazy ("extremists"). Send a message that can't be interpreted as general apathy or laziness. Vote third party or write-in Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck, but don't stay home.

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    5. Sorry, but Anonymous at 3:26 pm is me (Phlogiston). I thought I was still logged in and didn't pay attention

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  8. "But he has one major flaw in his platform: *he promises he will rid our society of the “Jewish problem” through a new “Shoah”."

    What about him promising to rid our society of 11 million illegal immigrants?

    https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation

    What about Gaza, the monaco rebuild, he's urging Israel to depopulate of 2 million Arabs plus another 3 million in the west bank for greater Germany? https://www.axios.com/2024/10/08/trump-gaza-israel-monaco-rebuild
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240628-trump-let-israel-finish-the-job-in-gaza/
    IDF tightens noose in northern Gaza towns
    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjlzemiy1e
    Strike on Hamas center in hospital said to hit tents housing displaced people; US protests as images show CIVILIANS BURNING ALIVE; some aid to north Gaza renewed under global pressure
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-soldier-killed-in-south-gaza-as-aid-to-strips-north-renewed-under-global-pressure/
    Would U.S. take from Britain what Trump Kushner Netanyahu call a "peace plan" for Palestinians?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan
    Previous awardee was Jared Peace Plan Kushner
    https://www.jewishpress.com/special-features/man-of-the-year/man-of-the-year-5784-bezalel-smotrich-a-practical-ideologue-making-revolutionary-changes/2024/10/02/
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-it-may-be-justified-to-starve-2-million-gazans-but-world-wont-let-us/

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  9. Father Isaac Mary Relyea speaks on this topic in the linked podcast. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/soldiers-of-the-immaculate/id1722867775?i=1000666847458

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