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Tuesday, June 17, 2025

"Outside the Church there is no salvation." False ecumenism attacks the dogma!


Jesus gave us the roadmap to happiness. Love God with your whole heart, mind, soul, and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. That's the highway to heaven? And once we get to the finish line Peter and his successors hold the keys to heaven's gates.

The Church tells us, "Extra ecclesiam nulla salus," Outside the Church there is no salvation. But what exactly does that mean? Can only baptized Catholics go to heaven? 

In his chapter on ecumenism in Open Letter to Confused Catholics, Archbishop Lefebvre explains how false ecumenism undermines Catholic dogma by promoting religious indifferentism. It's important to understand the difference between a false ecumenism that explicitly or implicitly promotes the concept that all religions are equal vs. true ecumenism which involves separated brothers and sisters working together for a mutually agreed on goal without pretending that all religions are equal and lead to heaven.

We've seen the work of true ecumenism at U.N. meetings when Catholics and other denominations join together to fight abortion and the false language of "reproductive rights." We see it in the pro-life movement when people of all faiths fight for the little ones in the womb. 

When I was in prison during the Spring of Life in Buffalo in 1992, I had a long talk with an atheist who was among the two hundred incarcerated women. She was an example of a woman of good will who knew the truth that all human life is worthy of protection. That is true ecumenism. Life Chain draws many churches together to stand side by side in defense of life. But we never pretend to be one in faith. 

Here's what Archbishop Lefebvre says:
Ecumenism in the strict sense, i.e. as practised among Christians, has motivated joint Eucharistic celebrations with Protestants, such as at Strasbourg. The Anglicans were invited to Chartres Cathedral to celbrate "Eucharistic Communion". The only celebration which is not allowed, either at Chartres, or at Strasbourg, or at Marseilles, is that of Holy Mass according to the rite codified by Saint Pius V. 

These examples illustrate false ecumenism and its scandals. Jesus prayed that we all might be one at the Last Supper, but not through a fake unity. The Archbishop goes on:

What conclusion can be drawn from all this by a Catholic who sees Church authorities condoning such scandalous ceremonies? If all religions are equal value, he could very well work out his salvation with Buddhists or Protestants. He is running the risk of losing faith in the true Church. This in fact is what is suggested to him. They want to submit the Church to natural law; they want to put it on the same footing with other religions. They refuse to say - even priests, seminarists and seminary professors - that the Catholic Church is the only Church, that she possesses the truth, that she alone is able to lead men to salvation through Jesus Christ. "The Church is only a spiritual leaven within society, but the same as other religions; a bit more that the others, perhaps ..." They sometimes grant it a slight superiority, if you press them. 
If this is the case, then the Church is merely useful; she is no longer indispensible. She is only one of the means of salvation. 
We must say it clearly: such a concept is radically opposed to Catholic dogma. The Church is the one ark of salvation, and we must not be afraid to affirm it. You have often heard it said, "Outside the Church there is no salvation" - a dictum which offends contemporary minds. It is easy to believe that this doctrine is no longer in effect, that it has been dropped. It seems excessively severe. 
Yet nothing, in fact, has changed; nothing can be changed in this area. Our Lord did not found a number of churches: He founded only One. There is only one Cross by which we can be saved, and that Cross has been given to the Catholic Church. It has not been given to others. To His Church, His mystical bride, Christ has given all graces. No grace in the world, no grace in the history of humanity is distributed except through her. 

And now the Archbishop explains the dogma:

Does that mean that no Protestant, no Muslim, no Buddhist or animist will be saved? No, it would be a second error to think that. Those who cry for intolerance in interpreting St. Cyprian's formula, "Outside the Church there is no salvation," also reject the Creed, "I confess one baptism for the remission of sins", and are insufficiently instructed as to what baptism is. There are three ways of receiving it: the baptism of water; the baptism of blood (that of the martyrs who confessed their faith while still catechumens) and baptism of desire. 
Baptism of desire can be explicit. Many times in Africa I heard one of our catechumens say to me, "Father, baptise me straightaway because if I die before you come again, I shall go to hell". I told him, "No, if you have no mortal sin on your conscience and if you desire baptism, then you already have the grace in you". 

The doctrine of the Church also recognises implicit baptism of desire. This consists in doing the will of God. God knows all men and He knows that amongst Protestants, Muslims, Buddhists and in the whole of humanity there are men of good will. They receive the grace of baptism without knowing it, but in an effective way. In this way they become part of the Church. 
The error consists in thinking that they are saved by their religion. They are saved in their religion but not by it. There is no Buddhist church in heaven, no Protestant church. This is perhaps hard to accept, but it is the truth. I did not found the Church, but rather Our Lord the Son of God. As priests we must state the truth.

False ecumenism threatens missionary work as well. Why bother if the Catholic faith is unimportant and no one truly needs it? 

But at the cost of what difficulties do people in those countries where Christianity has not penetrated come to receive baptism by desire! Error is an obstacle to the Holv Ghost. This explains why the Church has always sent missionaries into all countries of the world, why thousands of them have suffered martyrdom. If salvation can be found in any religion, why cross the seas, why subject oneself to unhealthy climates, to a harsh life, to sickness and an early death? From the martyrdom of St. Stephen onwards (t 1 e first to give his life for Christ, and for this reason his feast is the day after Christmas), the Apostles set out to spread the Good News throughout the Mediterranean countries. Would they have done this if one could be saved by worshipping Cybele or by the mysteries of Eleusis? Why did Our Lord say to them, "Go and preach the Gospel to all nations"?

It's true and a doctrine that "Outside the Church there is no salvation." Which is why it's essential for us to share the faith when we have the opportunity. Everyone has free will and we can't force the will of others, but God gave us free will so we could come to the truth. There are many falling into hell like snowflakes as Jacinta described the vision of hell Mary revealed at Fatima. Those are the "poor sinners" misusing their free will to rebel against God. Jacinta's short life was to be a victim soul to save poor sinners from the fires of hell. What a courageous path it would be to follow that little mystic in her vocation of love.

19 comments:

  1. All well and good, and for the sake of my late Presbyterian mother I pray the Archbishop was correct. My stumbling block has always been mortal sin. Even the best of us are guilty now and again. Without the Sacrament of Penance, martyrdom, or a perfect act of contrition there is no forgiveness, hence no salvation. What am I missing?

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    1. Perhaps God's mercy. Think of the people of Nineveh who repented in sackcloth and ashes. Think of David who committed adultery and arranged the murder of Uriah. They repented, but didn't have the sacrament of Confession. And think of the intercessions of the Blessed Mother. We all deserve hell fire except the innocent newly baptized baby. But God's mercy is like the ocean, I think, for all those who reach out to him in faith, humility, and repentance.

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  2. You (quoting Arbp LeFebvre) said: “They are saved *in* their religion but not *by* it.”

    Christ did not die on the Cross as a religious option among many options.

    Christ left His throne in Heaven - in poverty, for death, a sacrificial Lamb - as the singular solution to the problem of Divine separation from from His children, prophesied by Himself at the beginning of time. And then, before He returned to His throne victorious, He also established the rules whereby all subsequent generations can come and meet Him. His Words, not ours. His acts, not ours. To take up our Cross and follow Him means to do exactly as our Master says.

    God in His mercy will see the hearts of the truly ignorant and judge them in the truest combination of righteous mercy and justice.

    But to all who know, or should know? Failure to precisely follow is truly fearful.

    I sure do appreciate starting a day with these thought provoking meditations! God bless!

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  3. "Whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, going forth out of that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet. Amen, I say to you, it shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city." Matt. 10:14 (Jurisdiction from Christ! Priests = Mandate)

    "And He said to them: God ye into the whole world and preach the Gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be condemned." Mark:16, 15-16) (Mandate/Jurisdiction)

    Saint Thomas Aquinas (died, A.D. 1274): "There is no entering into salvation outside the Church, just as in the tie of the deluge there was none outside the ark, which denotes the Church." (Summa Theolgiae)

    Saint Augustine (died A. D. 430): "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing 'alleluia', one can answer 'amen,' one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation, except in the Catholic Church." (Sermo ad Caesariensis Ecclesiae plebem)

    As the ancient Athanasian Creed say, 'Whosoever wishes to be saved must above all, keep the Catholic faith; for unless a person keeps this faith whole and entire he will undoubtedly be lost forever....."

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    1. “Whole and entire”, in union with Christ, through the Apostles, in communion with the Holy Father, through Mary - keeping the Faith within that ecclesial structure *only*.

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  4. Ex Cathedra: “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that noe of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal: but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pours out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remains within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.”
    ~ Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.

    Failure to hold and teach this doctrine has led to the present state of affairs in the Church of God……..'false love of neighbor' is the cause of legions lost souls, especially, Catholic souls. Miserere!

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  5. I'll offer just two quotes from Pius IX and Pius XII:

    Pope Pius IX, (1863: DS 2866): "God... in His supreme goodness and clemency, by no means allows anyone to be punished with eternal punishments who does not have the guilt of voluntary fault. But it is also a Catholic dogma, that no one outside the Catholic Church can be saved, and that those who are contumacious against the authority of the same Church [and] definitions and who are obstinately separated from the unity of this Church and from the Roman Pontiff, successor of Peter, to whom the custody of the vineyard was entrusted by the Savior, cannot obtain eternal salvation."[emphasis added].

    Pope Pius XII, (1943: DS 3821): "They who do not belong to the visible bond of the Catholic Church... [we ask them to] strive to take themselves from that state in which they cannot be sure of their own eternal salvation; for even though they are ordered to the mystical body of the Redeemer by a certain desire and wish of which they are not aware [implicit in the general wish to do what God wills], yet they lack so many and so great heavenly gifts and helps which can be enjoyed only in the Catholic Church."

    Fr. Feeney was condemned for his obstinate inssistence that only baptized Catholics could be saved. The brilliant theologian, Fr. William Most, has an interesting article on this with many quotes from popes and the Church Fathers. The above quotes are from his article, Tragic Errors of Leonard Feeney. I recommend it in full. Fr. Most summarizes saying:

    1. Following proper theological method, the Fathers and the Magisterium saw two things: a)the Church is necessary for salvation; b)In some way God must make provision for those who do not find the Church. This was already stated in Romans 3.29 by St. Paul. If He did not do that, He would act as though He were not their God- He would condemn millions to hell who never had a chance!. Such a God could not be a God at all, but a monster.

    2. In an effort to find how to fit the two together, most of them expressed a very broad concept of membership in the Church. Then one can say that there is no salvation outside the Church, but that the concept of membership is very broad, and covers even those who do not find the Church.

    3. The early Magisterium texts at first seem very stringent. It is likely they had in mind those who culpably reject the Church - the words of Pius IX about those who are contumacious and obstinate fit with this and did not apply to those who through no fault of their own do not find the Church. The words of Romans 3.29 call for this interpretation.

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    1. Our bookstore has a great book on Feeneyism - Is It Catholic.

      It sounds like, as with all Protestant-type error he took a kernel of truth and elevated it to the supreme and only truth, on his own authority, as an enlightened possessor of unique light and knowledge. And reading him is like reading any other Protestant-style sect … very frustrating and irritating and a deviation from that one path, pictured and referred to in your article.

      The RCC Tradition is, of course, more comprehensive and intuitively correct. As with any conversation with a good mother, you are left with a feeling of confidence and peace when discussing hard truths with our Holy Mother, the Church.

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  6. I sense similar fear and discontent within the Sede faction as within various Protestant factions - a desire for affirmation of their chosen disobedience by “winning” arguments.

    Within the RCC there is peace and confidence because it is not of us, our intellect, our enlightenment, our proofs; it doesn’t depend on our assent … or rebellion. It is of God and lives on with, or without us.

    The RCC exists specifically through an hierarchy of obedience to the Apostles (plural), in communion with the Holy Father, all the other Faithful (the Saints) throughout time and then through Mary to Jesus. That is the one and only Way. The Keys of the Kingdom were given to St Peter and the Apostles in communion with him - not to individual laity or breakaway Priests and Bishops declaring Anathemas and sentences of deprivations and Thesis pounded onto the doors of a Bishop’s Cathedral demanding satisfaction.

    You will know the Truth, because therein lies peace, confidence, communion, continuity, Charity.

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  7. "God... in His supreme goodness and clemency, by no means allows anyone to be punished with eternal punishments who does NOT have the guilt of Voluntary fault.........

    ......this cannot be clearer.......

    O Mary, Mother of Mercy and Refuge of sinners, be pleased to look with pitiful eyes upon poor heretics and schismatics. Thou who art the Seat of Wisdom, enlighten the minds that are miserably enfolded in the darkness of ignorance and sin, that they may clearly know that the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Roman Church is the one true Church of Jesus Christ, outside of which neither holiness nor salvation can be found. Finish the work of their conversion by obtaining from them the grace to accept all the truths of our Holy Faith and to submit themselves to the Supreme Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Jesus Christ on earth; that so, being united with us in the sweet chains of divine charity, there may soon be only one fold under the same one Shepherd; and may we all, O glorious Virgin, sing forever with exultation: rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou only has destroyed all heresies in the whole world. Amen.
    Hail Mary, three times. (Pope Pius IX, Raccolta No. 579)

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  8. One of the great things about Novus Ordo Watch is he, Mario, allows opposing view points to be published in the comments section. Why? Because SVism is true and he has no fear of being proven wrong. If your recognize and resist, aka SSPX position is true, you could easily make a defense of my earlier, unpublished comment. It's a shame Mary Ann.

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    1. Outside the Church, there is no salvation.

      What is the Church?

      To Jesus Christ through obedience to the apostles in communion with the Holy Father, through Mary, with all the other infinite Faithful through time. Period.

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    2. And, btw, within that Church, the one Christ gave us, the one under the Pope and the Apostles (plural), we are not perfect. We are, instead, being sanctified through the Sacraments until we reach Church Triumphant … Church Militant? Messy, because we are, by definition of Christ and St Paul, at war.

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    3. Good for Mario. I allowed the SVs to comment for a long time with their relentless browbeating . I don't have enough years left for that! I guess you and Mario can tell us when there's finally a true pope.

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    4. Aqua, EENS

      Then you go on to say what is the Church and how we have to be in communion...etc.

      The SSPX are in some made up "partial communion" with Rome. The SSPX of Abp. Lefebvre's time has changed. In his book ",Open Letter to Confused Catholics" the archbishop said NO ordinations were doubtful and episcopal consecrations were invalid. Was he wrong about that? If so, what else did he get wrong?

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    5. Not interested in playing. See my response to this morning’s post “What’s Going On Here?”.

      The truth exists independently of our musings and speculations. I am quite comfortable that I have led my family into the safety of the RCC in communion with every generation of Catholic who ever was or will be.

      When Benedict redigned, I was troubled by the face of two visible Popes. My questions, my dilemmas were calmly, consistently answered by my RC Priests. I was at peace with the “irregular” Papal situation. And now … there is no question remaining, since both actors in that Papal Emeritus drama have passed on to their judgement.

      Now - we have a new Pope, validly elected, no question. And I remain, as before, a loyal, obedient son and servant of the one, holy, Catholic, *apostolic* Church.

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    6. Above “anonymous” quote - Aqua, fwiw.

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  9. .....excerpt from "Divine Intimacy', by Fr. Gabriel of St. Mary Magdalene (Carmelite priest)

    "To be a 'Child of the Church' is the most glorious title for a Christian and second only to that of 'Child of God.' These two titles can never be separated - one depends upon the other; for, as St. Cyprian has said, 'He who does not have the Church for a Mother, cannot have God for a Father."
    Jesus wishes to save and sanctify us, but He wishes to do it by means of the Church.....if the thought of being a Child of the Church does not make our hearts vibrate, if our love for the Church is weak, if our recourse to her is not confident, this indicates a lack of the spirit of faith: we have not sufficiently understood that the Church is Christ, continuing to live in our midst to sanctify and sustain us and to lead us to eternal beatitude.

    .....from an ancient Liturgy...
    "May Your Church always remain pure and living! May she chant Your praises under the guidance of the holy angels! We pray to You for all her members; grant them pardon and remission of all their sins; grant that they may sin no more. Be their defense; take away from them all temptation. Have pity on men, women, and children; reveal Yourself to all, and let the knowledge of Your Holy Name be written in their hearts."

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  10. I was reading the morning news and came across the published concurring opinion of Justice Thomas in support of yesterday’s Supreme Court’s affirmation of biological sex as the foundation of determining sex-based law such as Tennessee’s minor-protection against gender altering surgeries. Supporters of tranny rights relied on their case on “expert consensus”. Thomas took them all to the woodshed for discipline.

    Justice Thomas said this: “… this case serves as a useful reminder that the American people and their representatives are entitled to disagree with those who hold themselves out as experts, and that courts may not “sit as a super-legislature to weigh the wisdom of legislation. States are never required to substitute expert opinion for their legislative judgment, and, when the experts appear to have compromised their credibility, it makes good sense to chart a different course”.

    - end quote -

    It fits into this topic in this way - Theologians, scholars, smart people with unique intelligence and insights are *NOT* the voice of the Church. They are members, no doubt, but they are not *THE* voice to which we listen and are guided by. Just because a theologian in the 16th century held a theological speculation to be true, does not thereby render it the voice of Holy Mother Church. Jesus Christ established a structure and rules for living within that structure and THAT, only that, is the Church, the voice of the Church.

    Even Catholics can be led astray by “experts”. They are valuable, each in their own way (Kwasniewski comes to mind), but perspective, and obedience to lawful authority, is required when considering their views.

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