Remember Good-Bye Good Men, Michael Rose's book about the attack on orthodox men aspiring to the priesthood? Corrupt seminaries welcoming homosexuals bearing nicknames like The Pink Palace (St. Mary's in Baltimore) had gatekeepers to make sure only those who supported women's ordination, homosexuality, changes in moral teaching on sexuality, etc. were accepted. Those "rigid" Catholics, men who loved the faith as taught over the millennia, were blacklisted, excluded, and expelled especially if they had the temerity to tell seminary rectors about being approached by their gay classmates. Actually, sometimes they were approached by faculty. And they often ended up being told they were unfit for the priesthood.
If you want to damage the Church, attack the shepherds and the aspiring shepherds. That, in essence, is exactly what the Synod on Synodality is all about. Fr. Z recommends Dr. Ashenden's video as one all Catholics should watch. I echo that. The Planned Synodal Takover of the Catholic Church by Dr. Gavin Ashenden, a convert from Anglicanism who served as the Queen's chaplain for a number of years, is a must view! We need to know exactly what is causing the crisis in the Church. This video lays out one aspect exposing the sinister goal of the wolves running the synod.
Dr. Ashenden warns a few minutes into the video that, "A dreadful suspicion is emerging that [the synodal process] is acting as an interim means to change the nature of faith itself." He discusses a conversation with Rome correspondent, Edward Pentin who has traced the synods since the Synod on the Family ten years ago and believes that they are a "stalking horse for a progressive revision of Catholic ethics and faith."
Dr. Ashenden's video blows the warning trumpet. The synod is nothing but the latest episode in a dystopian process that began with the Synod on the Family a decade ago. Its object? To change the Church into a worldly institution indistinguishable from Protestant sects. The goal is so patently obvious and so patently inconsistent with Church teaching that sensible Catholics should give the Synod a wide berth except to organize prayer vigils with Jericho marches, blessed salt, and holy water. The synodal process is not evil of itself, but in the hands of curial wolves, it is being used to undermine the faith. It is not a movement of the Holy Spirit and, since the organizers rarely mention Jesus Christ or anything remotely Catholic, that fact is obvious.
These bureaucratic blather sessions have nothing to do with enriching the faith or dealing with real Church issues and problems. The authors of the working document, according to Dr. Ashenden "have given the hungry a spiritual stone...." The Jesus in the Instrumentum Laboris is "not the Jesus of the Gospel."
And, if it's not Jesus, who do you think it is?
Here are a few take-aways from this excellent summary of the scandalous working document:
- "Radical repentance and conversion in the gospels are replaced...by radical inclusion and acceptance...." acceptance particularly of those living disordered lifestyles, "the alphabet people."
- The document bears "the fingerprints of progressive Leftism" with emphasis on war, climate change, and alienation, with a focus on "listening" to those who "for the first time" feel listened to.
- The document is "profoundly sub-Christian" ignoring original sin and the necessity of conversion to focus instead on "listening" and "walking together."
- The document is filled with "psycho-babble."
- Is "authentic listening" just walking together with "unobservant Catholics?"
- Dr. Ashenden emphasizes how nonsensical the Instrumentum Laboris is with its "endlessly repeated aphorisms of subjective relativism immersed in constant therapeutic truisms."
- "The authors actually have greater and more sinister ambitions in their minds...they are forming something so radically different from the Catholic Church and practice that it has a name. The name is Synodal Catholicism and the aspiration is a takeover of the seminaries and the clergy. Listen to this: 'Candidates for ordained ministry must be trained in a synodal style and mentality. The promotion of a culture of synodality implies the renewal of the current seminary curriculum and the formation of teachers and professors of theology so that there is a clearer and more decisive orientation towards formation for a life of communion, mission, and participation. Formation for a more genuinely synodal spirituality is at the heart of the renewal of the Church.'"
If its already happening how can it be blamed on a "synodal takeover"? Who sets the seminar standards right now? Rome or the National Council of Bishops? And even if the latter, could not the pope do something? Perhaps a move to a synodal model would cause positive change for the better because a do-nothing pope lopped off the top no longer there to pass the buck to, the National Council of Bishops might finally straighten out the seminaries?
ReplyDeleteThere are "Protestant Sects" that are immune to all the problems plauging all other sects including the 3 or 4 Roman Catholic sects. But these are the decentralized loose federation of congregationa types, not top down hierarchical ones which Catholics pay attention to (Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Episcopalian/Anglican, and SBC). The devil has a much easier time corrupting from the top down, whether that be by one man (a pope of Rome or a president of the Missouri Synod) or by a council (Vatican I and II and the councils of the Episopalians that accepted LGBTqP+). But when you look at groups like the Churches of Chriat, the devil can't get his faggotry in, nor his filthy contemporary worship music and mosh pit. He would have to corrupt at the congregational level, and by the time he does in one congregation all the other congregations excommunicate it! Because no money flows up from local level to a national organization, so there is no hesitation to excommunicate a heretical congregation like you saw with thw SBC hesitating to get rid of Saddleback Church since it was a money maker for them or like the RCC hesitates to dump the German bishops. The decentralized model is clearly superior. And to some extent, but lesser, the so-called Orthodox have a decentralized model too, but less decentralized, more like the SBC, so as easy to corrupt ultimately as the SBC was.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a Proddie, thinking about becoming Catholic, I was fortunate to have faithful Catholic co-workers willing to share the RC Faith and steer me in the right direction as an aspirant inquirer.
ReplyDeleteOne man in particular, I remember, warned me about the “situation” inside the Catholic Faith. I met him only once but he was, from memory, obviously a Traditionalist. He said, from the baseline that the RC religion is quantitatively true, to beware of the modern undercurrent of sodomy, perversion and theological deviations built-in to the Priesthood as the Seminaries have been taken over by the enemy. “The Church is good; the current moment is not good”, (words to that effect).
And he recommended THAT book, Good Bye, Good Men … to a prospective convert! … to keep me safe (in hindsight) from a very great evil.
I started the book on his recommendation. I found it utterly depressing. I accepted its premise but wouldn’t debase myself with the particulars.
But a friend of mine, former Seminarian, now Doctor, who left the Seminary and his vocation because (his words) “he saw first-hand everything alleged in that book”.
It’s all true. The book Good Bye, Good Men is as good as any other book in explaining why the RC Faith is in eclipse from a great evil within. I will finish reading it, someday, but not yet.
As to the “Synodal Church”, it is the anti-church within the RC Church, which is now in eclipse.
DeleteSynodal Church has been there within for quite some time, hidden, perhaps for centuries, but now they are exposed - we see them clearly - and that’s the good part of all this. They are no longer sapping and polluting the pure RC Faith from within. Now they have lit the match, doused themselves with gasoline and are burning the entire anti-church edifice to the ground. What we are losing in the flames is not the RC Faith. The RC Faith is instead being purified of anti-church poison so that when this purgatorial trial is complete, the RC Church is all that will remain: pure, holy, godly, and very very small (as Pope Benedict XVI foretold) - in essence what she already is, but in eclipse, but in that day eclipsed no longer.
So burn away, heretics! Burn it all down! I want only the one, true, holy, apostolic Faith of the ages that will never change, nor can change because she is already perfect … you can take your synodal whatever-it-is and let it collapse at the end of its obvious, ultimate conclusion.
"You would be hard pressed to find better formed priests in the world today."
ReplyDeleteMary Ann, since we all are searching for the truth, I hope you'll consider reaching out to a few sede clergy. Seeing as quite a few sede priests were from the SSPX and that there still are silent sede priests within the Society, you may be pleasantly surprised at how well formed these priests are too.
Who were those sede priests formed by?
DeleteIf the seminaries are making men have to perform gay sex acts to become priests, then there are not priests. Donatist was right at least if the priest commits homosexual acts, because by doing so he ceases to be a man (as Epictetus says, both parties in homosexuality lose their manhood) and therefore there is invalid matter in the ordination and they receive no grace nor apostolic succession because by having performed gay sex acts they ceased to be men, and women cannot be ordained.
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ReplyDeleteRe "But when you look at groups like the Churches of Chriat, the devil can't get his faggotry in, nor his filthy contemporary worship music and mosh pit."
The Church of Christ has a long and sordid history of sexual abuse:
Re: Five women in California have sued a network of organizations associated with the International Churches of Christ and two of its leaders, claiming they are victims of childhood sexual abuse and a financial pyramid scheme perpetrated by a “cult.” Rolling Stone 31 DEC 22
Sin, like grace, is universal.
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Richard W Comerford
No it doesn't. Its not even possible as they don't have clergy as such nor teach they have any authority above the Bible so they can't use the tricks of Catholic and Calvjnist clergy that if you do things with them they can save you. And all churches in California are fake and not a true part of any denomination as California is just fag land.
DeleteAlso the "International" moniker at the beginning there marks a different group.
DeleteRichard, the ICOC isn't the Churches of Christ. That is a separate organization that split off from them. However, in the mainstream COC's, they have problems with abuses of various kinds as well. According to a website I visited, that was run by members fighting abuses, there's a hard core of 20% of the membership that acts abusive. The people who founded the ICOC probably came from the 20% of the COC.
ReplyDeleteAs for the idea that congregational, decentralized churches are harder to corrupt, sorry, they can be easily corrupted. Corrupt ministers can network to advance common interests. They can exchange ideas, information, transfer personal to bend congregations their way, and help their fellow conspiracers when they get in trouble. A former Baptist lady, now a Catholic, told me that there was a network of Baptist preachers involved in pornography, so decentralization won't prevent stuff like this from happening. The only thing you can do is to expose it when it's discovered, and publically rebuke and discipline the wrongdoer, and notify the police, especially if minors are involved.
Their "abuses" is requiring Sunday morning attendance every Sunday and basically considering you to be in their version of "mortal sin" until you make a public confession of sin if you miss.
DeleteRe: Church of Christ/CHurches of Christ
ReplyDeletetheguardian.com
"March 21, 2023 - Michele “Chele” Roland was ... Churches of Christ. She never imagined that, three decades later, she would lead a legal battle accusing the controversial Christian religious organization of enabling and covering up the sexual molestation of children in its congregation, among other alleged abuses"
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Richard W Comerford
May 18, 2022 - "Joshua Henley, former youth minister for the Holladay Church of Christ in Tennessee, pleaded guilty this week to an eight-count federal indictment. By pleading guilty, Henley admitted that he produced child sexual abuse material involving three minors, transported a minor interstate"
ReplyDeleteIt is endless
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Richard W Comerford
"SilentCofC: Child Sexual Abuse and Churches of Christ - Many believe (myself included) that the Protestant sexual abuse scandal will by far outstrip anything that has happened to the Catholic Church in the last two decades." Blog of MICHAEL HANEGAN
ReplyDeleteThe Churches of Christ appear to be a stronghold of child abuse.
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Richard W Comerford
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DeleteOh my goodness, I am so sorry. If I can delete it, I will.
DeleteSorry Debbie, I didn’t mean anything by that post of mine. It’s happened to me before - posting the wrong link - which is why I found it humorous.
DeleteI think you meant this one of Verrecchio’s didn’t you?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78nteW7j7gA&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fakacatholic.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title
Oops...here it is:
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Mr CoCer
ReplyDeleteRe: they don't have clergy as such
The Churches of Christ have persons in leadership positions. As evidenced by the Blog of MICHAEL HANEGAN persons in leadership positions in the Churches of Christ are prime abusers.
It is simply horrendous.
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Richard W Comw
This is the liberal churches of Christ that have sunday school with women teachers and "Staffers" which are anathema to us and a separate fellowship more separate even than novus ordos and sedevacantists. They are just Baptists misusing the name "church of Christ" and don't even believe that one has to believe baptism is for the remission of sins and accept Baptists baptisms; we don't.
ReplyDeleteThere is only one true “Church of Christ “ and that is the one holy, Catholic and Apostolic church. Every other church is anathema.
ReplyDeleteThe one holy apostolic SSPX.
DeleteThe mosaic, perverted, synodalist Conciliar
DeleteMr CoCer:
ReplyDeleteRe: This is the liberal churches of Christ
Again. As evidenced by the Blog of MICHAEL HANEGAN this does not appear to be a liberal sin. Conservative Churches of Christ also suffer from this horrible evil.
Both you and your "conservative" church are anonymous. You hide behind your anonymity to attack Catholicism. There is something both sinister and cowardly about this. You do not persuade.
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Richard W Comerford
I had a friend (since passed) who was at that seminary and vouched for its authenticity..... along with other atrocities not included. Though he wore jeans and shirts to blend in, he was warned by classmates that "they will never let you become a priest. You 'wreak' Catholic." Hold fast to the traditions, mates. You want to be on firm ground when the dam breaks....
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