Me: The baby in the womb has a heartbeat about 21 days after conception. Often the mother doesn't even know she's pregnant yet.
Pro-abort: That's your opinion. Nobody knows when life begins.
Me: It's not an opinion; it's a medical fact. The baby has brain waves that can be measured six weeks after conception. His body is completely formed at ten weeks. At twelve all the organ systems that you have are working in the baby's body. He even has finger prints.
Pro-abort: It's just potential life.
Me: No, it's a life with potential. When do you think life begins?
Pro-abort: I don't know, but it's the mother's right to choose. If she doesn't want to be pregnant she has the right to an abortion.
Me: Is there any limit? Can she abort the baby during the eighth month.
Pro-abort: It's her body, she can do whatever she wants.
Me: It's not her body. The baby has his or her own body separate from hers. We all started like that baby.
Pro-abort: It's a parasite and if she doesn't want to be pregnant she has the right to an abortion.
Me: So, when your mother was carrying you, you were just a parasite and she had a right to kill you?
Me: So she could kill you any time before birth? How about a minute after birth?
Pro-Abort: I don't want to talk about this anymore. You have your truth and I have mine.Well, the fact is that a couple of "ethicists" (Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva) support the same "truth." (Their article here.) They argue that after-birth abortion is okay too for any reason. Dave Andrusko at National Right to Life describes the argument by these so-called ethicists:
|"This genetically ill person will cost our people's community|
60,000 marks over his lifetime."
Remember the basic—and I do mean basic—premise that undergirds the Giubilini and Minerva case for death is, “What we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.” Put another way, whatever reasons, however morally unserious, we use to justify killing the unborn apply just as well to newborns. Why?
“Neither fetus nor baby has developed a sufficient sense of his own life to know what it would be like to be deprived of it,” Ferguson writes. The kid will never know the difference, in other words. A newborn baby is just a fetus who’s hung around a bit too long.Reread their argument and ask yourself how many mentally disabled individuals and patients with dementia fall into that same category. How many people with advanced Alzheimers have a "sufficient sense of [their] own [lives]? Will they be next on the list for "after-birth abortion?" No question in my mind. Euthanasia is next. The left will offer it as a solution to our economic problems. We've heard it before: the "useless eaters" have to go.